Hello and some questions from a new member
Hello all, I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ? - is there a public list of individual and organisational membership? - is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ? - under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate? Kind regards Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854
Dear Steven, thank you for your mail, which was the first mail ever on this brand new mailing list. 😉 Thank you for kicking off the discussion and raising the important questions below. As the initiative just started, you will find all what is currently available at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/p6WRRwR9dD5JP4F.
I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ?
As the initiative is, at least currently, completely informal, there is no formal charter or ToR (yet?). The document at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/g8ywMMYHp7fs7Ma outlines what we are aiming to: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there.
- is there a public list of individual and organisational membership?
Please refer to https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/P2fxnfwALZ95tcM, but keep in mind that there is not any formal organisational setting or embedding.
- is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ?
The different supporting organisations maintain different GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dss-x-openapi for example and as soon as we have produced technical content and source code, we should talk about whether we should use one of the existing repos or create a new one. In the meantime I would like to invite everybody to register at https://cloud.eID.AS to get write access to the folder corresponding to the first link above.
- under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate?
There are no governance or IP ownership rules defined and no discussions and hence agreements with respect to licenses yet. The only fixed point, which is somewhat clear from the goal of the initiative, is that the outcome should be usable and by everybody under a suitable open source / creative common license, and if we one day produce something, which could be called "standard", it should be an open one in the sense of https://open-stand.org/ . Best Regards, Detlef Mob: +49 171 9754980 Kind regards Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854 _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as
Detlef, You say the aim is: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there. Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services? Nick -----Original Message----- From: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> Sent: 07 April 2021 15:45 To: vaccination@eid.as Subject: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Dear Steven, thank you for your mail, which was the first mail ever on this brand new mailing list. 😉 Thank you for kicking off the discussion and raising the important questions below. As the initiative just started, you will find all what is currently available at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/p6WRRwR9dD5JP4F.
I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ?
As the initiative is, at least currently, completely informal, there is no formal charter or ToR (yet?). The document at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/g8ywMMYHp7fs7Ma outlines what we are aiming to: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there.
- is there a public list of individual and organisational membership?
Please refer to https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/P2fxnfwALZ95tcM, but keep in mind that there is not any formal organisational setting or embedding.
- is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ?
The different supporting organisations maintain different GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dss-x-openapi for example and as soon as we have produced technical content and source code, we should talk about whether we should use one of the existing repos or create a new one. In the meantime I would like to invite everybody to register at https://cloud.eID.AS to get write access to the folder corresponding to the first link above.
- under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate?
There are no governance or IP ownership rules defined and no discussions and hence agreements with respect to licenses yet. The only fixed point, which is somewhat clear from the goal of the initiative, is that the outcome should be usable and by everybody under a suitable open source / creative common license, and if we one day produce something, which could be called "standard", it should be an open one in the sense of https://open-stand.org/ . Best Regards, Detlef Mob: +49 171 9754980 Kind regards Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854 _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as
Hi - I am a member of CCI, ToIP, on the drafting committee for the Good Health Pass, and we helped create the MIT Paper Credentials specification. Proof Market developed the MedCreds platform based on W3C verifiable credentials built with open source on Hyperledger INDY and ARIES. Would this be helpful? Tony -- Tony Rose Founder & CEO | ProofMarket LinkedIn Cell +1 650 504 5154 —> Sign up for your own MedCreds Wallet! The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future. On Apr 7, 2021, 8:51 AM -0700, nick.pope@secstanassoc.com, wrote:
Detlef,
You say the aim is: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there.
Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services?
Nick
-----Original Message----- From: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> Sent: 07 April 2021 15:45 To: vaccination@eid.as Subject: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member
Dear Steven,
thank you for your mail, which was the first mail ever on this brand new mailing list. 😉
Thank you for kicking off the discussion and raising the important questions below. As the initiative just started, you will find all what is currently available at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/p6WRRwR9dD5JP4F.
I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ?
As the initiative is, at least currently, completely informal, there is no formal charter or ToR (yet?). The document at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/g8ywMMYHp7fs7Ma outlines what we are aiming to: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there.
- is there a public list of individual and organisational membership?
Please refer to https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/P2fxnfwALZ95tcM, but keep in mind that there is not any formal organisational setting or embedding.
- is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ?
The different supporting organisations maintain different GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dss-x-openapi for example and as soon as we have produced technical content and source code, we should talk about whether we should use one of the existing repos or create a new one. In the meantime I would like to invite everybody to register at https://cloud.eID.AS to get write access to the folder corresponding to the first link above.
- under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate?
There are no governance or IP ownership rules defined and no discussions and hence agreements with respect to licenses yet. The only fixed point, which is somewhat clear from the goal of the initiative, is that the outcome should be usable and by everybody under a suitable open source / creative common license, and if we one day produce something, which could be called "standard", it should be an open one in the sense of https://open-stand.org/ .
Best Regards, Detlef
Mob: +49 171 9754980
Kind regards
Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854 _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as
Hi David, thank you for your mail. To have a simple universal verifier for all sorts of W3C Verifiable Credentials sounds very inviting. Are there any design documents or sources, which are published or could be shared here? BR, Detlef Von: David Chadwick <d.w.chadwick@verifiablecredentials.info> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. April 2021 21:19 An: Tony Rose <tony@proofmarket.io>; detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de; vaccination@eid.as; nick.pope@secstanassoc.com Betreff: Re: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Hi All I am working with East Kent NHS to pilot vaccination certificates. I am also a member of the eSSIF project, in which I have proposed a simple universal verifier (SUV) to allow interworking between different W3C VC based systems. As you probably know, there are now 90 DID methods published and probably more in use that have not been published yet. The idea of the SUV is similar to that of a universal resolver for DIDs. If the different VC based systems support a few simple APIs then a resource should be able to support any of them sending a W3C VP to it and should be able to verify it and validate the user's COVID status Kind regards David On 07/04/2021 18:32, Tony Rose wrote: Hi - I am a member of CCI, ToIP, on the drafting committee for the Good Health Pass, and we helped create the MIT Paper Credentials specification. Proof Market developed the MedCreds platform based on W3C verifiable credentials built with open source on Hyperledger INDY and ARIES. Would this be helpful? Tony -- Tony Rose Founder & CEO | ProofMarket <https://proofmarket.io> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/in/tony-rose> Cell +1 650 504 5154 —> Sign up for your own MedCreds Wallet! <https://app.medcreds.com/register> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future. On Apr 7, 2021, 8:51 AM -0700, nick.pope@secstanassoc.com <mailto:nick.pope@secstanassoc.com> , wrote: Detlef, You say the aim is: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there. Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services? Nick -----Original Message----- From: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <mailto:detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> <mailto:detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> Sent: 07 April 2021 15:45 To: vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> Subject: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Dear Steven, thank you for your mail, which was the first mail ever on this brand new mailing list. 😉 Thank you for kicking off the discussion and raising the important questions below. As the initiative just started, you will find all what is currently available at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/p6WRRwR9dD5JP4F. I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ? As the initiative is, at least currently, completely informal, there is no formal charter or ToR (yet?). The document at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/g8ywMMYHp7fs7Ma outlines what we are aiming to: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there. - is there a public list of individual and organisational membership? Please refer to https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/P2fxnfwALZ95tcM, but keep in mind that there is not any formal organisational setting or embedding. - is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ? The different supporting organisations maintain different GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dss-x-openapi for example and as soon as we have produced technical content and source code, we should talk about whether we should use one of the existing repos or create a new one. In the meantime I would like to invite everybody to register at https://cloud.eID.AS to get write access to the folder corresponding to the first link above. - under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate? There are no governance or IP ownership rules defined and no discussions and hence agreements with respect to licenses yet. The only fixed point, which is somewhat clear from the goal of the initiative, is that the outcome should be usable and by everybody under a suitable open source / creative common license, and if we one day produce something, which could be called "standard", it should be an open one in the sense of https://open-stand.org/ . Best Regards, Detlef Mob: +49 171 9754980 Kind regards Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854 _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as <mailto:vaccination-leave@eid.as> _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as <mailto:vaccination-leave@eid.as> _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as <mailto:vaccination-leave@eid.as> _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as <mailto:vaccination-leave@eid.as>
Hi Tony, thank you for your mail.
Would this be helpful?
Definitely. I have two (and a half) questions: 1. Is the “MIT Paper Credential specification” published? 2. Would you be able to fill in the missing column for the Good Health Pass data model in https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/Zw7zTGtKdYeeHiX (see attachment)? 2.5) Do you think that there’s a need for some sort of DLT in addition to the PKI-based approach outlined in https://www.who.int/publications/m/item/interim-guidance-for-developing-a-sm... ? BR, Detlef Von: Tony Rose <tony@proofmarket.io> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. April 2021 19:32 An: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de; vaccination@eid.as; nick.pope@secstanassoc.com Betreff: Re: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Hi - I am a member of CCI, ToIP, on the drafting committee for the Good Health Pass, and we helped create the MIT Paper Credentials specification. Proof Market developed the MedCreds platform based on W3C verifiable credentials built with open source on Hyperledger INDY and ARIES. Would this be helpful? Tony -- Tony Rose Founder & CEO | ProofMarket <https://proofmarket.io> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/in/tony-rose> Cell +1 650 504 5154 —> Sign up for your own MedCreds Wallet! <https://app.medcreds.com/register> The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future. On Apr 7, 2021, 8:51 AM -0700, nick.pope@secstanassoc.com <mailto:nick.pope@secstanassoc.com> , wrote: Detlef, You say the aim is: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there. Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services? Nick -----Original Message----- From: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <mailto:detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <mailto:detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> > Sent: 07 April 2021 15:45 To: vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> Subject: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Dear Steven, thank you for your mail, which was the first mail ever on this brand new mailing list. 😉 Thank you for kicking off the discussion and raising the important questions below. As the initiative just started, you will find all what is currently available at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/p6WRRwR9dD5JP4F. I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ? As the initiative is, at least currently, completely informal, there is no formal charter or ToR (yet?). The document at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/g8ywMMYHp7fs7Ma outlines what we are aiming to: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there. - is there a public list of individual and organisational membership? Please refer to https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/P2fxnfwALZ95tcM, but keep in mind that there is not any formal organisational setting or embedding. - is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ? The different supporting organisations maintain different GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dss-x-openapi for example and as soon as we have produced technical content and source code, we should talk about whether we should use one of the existing repos or create a new one. In the meantime I would like to invite everybody to register at https://cloud.eID.AS to get write access to the folder corresponding to the first link above. - under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate? There are no governance or IP ownership rules defined and no discussions and hence agreements with respect to licenses yet. The only fixed point, which is somewhat clear from the goal of the initiative, is that the outcome should be usable and by everybody under a suitable open source / creative common license, and if we one day produce something, which could be called "standard", it should be an open one in the sense of https://open-stand.org/ . Best Regards, Detlef Mob: +49 171 9754980 Kind regards Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854 _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as <mailto:vaccination-leave@eid.as> _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as <mailto:vaccination-leave@eid.as> _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as <mailto:vaccination@eid.as> To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as <mailto:vaccination-leave@eid.as>
Dear Nick,
Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services?
Thank you for raising this important question. Besides Tony's and David's direct involvement mentioned in their mails yesterday there are ongoing conversations with several people in charge of setting up national schemes, but we are far from having all necessary stakeholders properly involved. So, please do not hesitate to invite relevant people working on the topic to join us here. BR, Detlef -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nick.pope@secstanassoc.com <nick.pope@secstanassoc.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. April 2021 17:51 An: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de; vaccination@eid.as Betreff: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Detlef, You say the aim is: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there. Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services? Nick -----Original Message----- From: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> Sent: 07 April 2021 15:45 To: vaccination@eid.as Subject: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Dear Steven, thank you for your mail, which was the first mail ever on this brand new mailing list. 😉 Thank you for kicking off the discussion and raising the important questions below. As the initiative just started, you will find all what is currently available at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/p6WRRwR9dD5JP4F.
I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ?
As the initiative is, at least currently, completely informal, there is no formal charter or ToR (yet?). The document at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/g8ywMMYHp7fs7Ma outlines what we are aiming to: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there.
- is there a public list of individual and organisational membership?
Please refer to https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/P2fxnfwALZ95tcM, but keep in mind that there is not any formal organisational setting or embedding.
- is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ?
The different supporting organisations maintain different GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dss-x-openapi for example and as soon as we have produced technical content and source code, we should talk about whether we should use one of the existing repos or create a new one. In the meantime I would like to invite everybody to register at https://cloud.eID.AS to get write access to the folder corresponding to the first link above.
- under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate?
There are no governance or IP ownership rules defined and no discussions and hence agreements with respect to licenses yet. The only fixed point, which is somewhat clear from the goal of the initiative, is that the outcome should be usable and by everybody under a suitable open source / creative common license, and if we one day produce something, which could be called "standard", it should be an open one in the sense of https://open-stand.org/ . Best Regards, Detlef Mob: +49 171 9754980 Kind regards Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854 _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as
Detlef, I don't know anyone personally but ETSI eHealth have over 50 members concerned with applying IT to health and are looking into a standard for vaccination and related COVID-19 health certificates. I suggest that once the group have agreed a terms of reference and work item that I pass this on the eHealth with the view to sharing information. Nick -----Original Message----- From: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> Sent: 08 April 2021 19:05 To: vaccination@eid.as Subject: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Dear Nick,
Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services?
Thank you for raising this important question. Besides Tony's and David's direct involvement mentioned in their mails yesterday there are ongoing conversations with several people in charge of setting up national schemes, but we are far from having all necessary stakeholders properly involved. So, please do not hesitate to invite relevant people working on the topic to join us here. BR, Detlef -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: nick.pope@secstanassoc.com <nick.pope@secstanassoc.com> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. April 2021 17:51 An: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de; vaccination@eid.as Betreff: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Detlef, You say the aim is: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there. Do we have representation from those involved in the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services? Nick -----Original Message----- From: detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de> Sent: 07 April 2021 15:45 To: vaccination@eid.as Subject: [Vaccination] Re: Hello and some questions from a new member Dear Steven, thank you for your mail, which was the first mail ever on this brand new mailing list. 😉 Thank you for kicking off the discussion and raising the important questions below. As the initiative just started, you will find all what is currently available at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/p6WRRwR9dD5JP4F.
I’ve just joined the mailing list. May I ask a few questions : - is there a charter / terms of reference for this group somewhere ?
As the initiative is, at least currently, completely informal, there is no formal charter or ToR (yet?). The document at https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/g8ywMMYHp7fs7Ma outlines what we are aiming to: To improve the technical interoperability of the existing and emerging vaccination certificate services out there.
- is there a public list of individual and organisational membership?
Please refer to https://cloud.eid.as/index.php/s/P2fxnfwALZ95tcM, but keep in mind that there is not any formal organisational setting or embedding.
- is the a group collaboration tool (eg GitHub) ?
The different supporting organisations maintain different GitHub repositories, such as https://github.com/oasis-tcs/dss-x-openapi for example and as soon as we have produced technical content and source code, we should talk about whether we should use one of the existing repos or create a new one. In the meantime I would like to invite everybody to register at https://cloud.eID.AS to get write access to the folder corresponding to the first link above.
- under what governance / IP ownership / license if model does this group operate?
There are no governance or IP ownership rules defined and no discussions and hence agreements with respect to licenses yet. The only fixed point, which is somewhat clear from the goal of the initiative, is that the outcome should be usable and by everybody under a suitable open source / creative common license, and if we one day produce something, which could be called "standard", it should be an open one in the sense of https://open-stand.org/ . Best Regards, Detlef Mob: +49 171 9754980 Kind regards Steven Capell Mob: 0410 437854 _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as _______________________________________________ Vaccination mailing list -- vaccination@eid.as To unsubscribe send an email to vaccination-leave@eid.as
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David Chadwick -
detlef.huehnlein＠ecsec.de -
nick.pope＠secstanassoc.com -
Steve Capell -
Tony Rose