Dear Colleagues, you should have been subscribed to the mailinglist haip4w3c@eID.AS, which might be helpful for our forthcoming discussions around this topic.
My objective would be to move this work under W3C and into this repo (as a second step): https://github.com/w3c/vc-dpp-bw
@Carsten, yes contributing our work later on to *W3C* would certainly be a very valid one option. As the HAIP4W3C profile will especially be used in the scope of the forthcoming European Business Wallet Regulation [1] and maybe also in the scope of the eIDAS-Regulation [2], it would also be an option to submit our joint work later on to *ETSI ESI*. I think both options are conceivable and both may have certain advantages and disadvantages. I would propose to start the work and later on decide which way to go, or whether a combination is even better. The work on XML-DSig [3] and XAdES [4,5], which was produced two decades ago jointly at W3C and ETSI ESI shows that a close and fruitful collaboration of W3C and ETSI ESI is very well possible. Juan-Carlos could certainly provide more details and insights how this worked out, and whether there have been any pitfalls to watch. Best Regards / have a wonderful weekend, Detlef [1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52025PC0838 [2] https://eID.AS [3] https://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-core1/ [4] https://www.w3.org/TR/XAdES/ [5] https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_en/319100_319199/31913201/01.03.01_60/en_3... Am 30.04.2026 um 08:19 schrieb carsten.stoecker@spherity.com:
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@Detlef Hühnlein (ecsec GmbH) <mailto:detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de>: My objective would be to move this work under W3C and into this repo (as a second step): https://github.com/w3c/vc-dpp-bw
*Von:*Ignacio Alamillo <ignacio.alamillo@logalty.com> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 30. April 2026 08:15 *An:* Detlef Hühnlein (ecsec GmbH) <detlef.huehnlein@ecsec.de>; Steffen Schwalm <Steffen.Schwalm@msg.group>; Mikael.afHallstrom@vero.fi; carsten.stoecker@spherity.com; Werner.Folkendt@de.bosch.com; Michael.Jochem@de.bosch.com; ronald.koenig@spherity.com; nalamillo@cgcom.es *Cc:* lluisalfons.arino@urv.cat; go@eID.AS; 'EUBW@eID.AS' <eubw@eid.as>; Mirko Mollik <mirko.mollik@eudi.sprind.org>; 'Varga Viktor' <viktor.varga@microsec.com>; Juan Carlos Cruellas <cruellas@ac.upc.edu> *Betreff:* Re: Towards a HAIP for W3C VCDM JSON-LD
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Dear Colleagues, thank you very much for the interesting and fruitful meeting yesterday. Following the discussion on LinkedIn this morning, _go@eID.AS <mailto:go@eID.AS>_ kindly created the repository _https://github.com/eu-business-wallet/haip4w3c <https://github.com/eu-business-wallet/haip4w3c>_ and sent out first invitations to some of the already known github usernames.
Everybody who has not received an invitation yet and would like to contribute here, is kindly requested to provide the corresponding github username.
Best Regards, Detlef
Am 29.04.2026 um 14:47 schrieb Steffen Schwalm:
Hi all,
thanks for the fruitful and lively discussion. Beside the fact that we didn`t really discuss ETSI TS 119 482-3 as original topic we agreed that there`s need for a High Security Profile for W3CVCDM 2.0 JSON-LD (based on ETSI TS 119 472-1. The profile should be or could be part of current EN development under lead of Juan Carlos Crueallas. We agreed that relevant authorities and experts should be in the boat.
_@Ignacio Alamillo <mailto:ignacio.alamillo@logalty.com>_ I guess it might be helpful since Spain pushing W3CVCDM as well that maybe first input could be provided by Spanish experts.
Beside this would recommend reaching out to Juan Carlos for alignment and next steps.
We also had common sense that
* currently nothing forbids a QTSP to issue QEAA using W3CVCDM JSON-LD as long as a CAB and Supervisory Body accepts it (which is case in certain member states) but sustainable solution would be mentioned Security Profile * that there´s currently a relationship between the Proposal for EU Business Wallet regulation and the 2024/2979 (IA on Art. 5a eIDAS) which is currently under revision as the proposal for EU Business Wallet regulation in current proposal refers to the IA on Art. 5a eIDAS for (Q)EAA formats
o if and how the relationship will be kept depends on final version of EU Business Wallet regulation and IA on Art. 5a eIDAS
* ETSI EN 319 482-3 Additional wallet interfaces; Part 3: Interfaces and formats for the catalogue of Attestation Rulebooks and attributes (Rapporteur Viktor Varga) in very first draft states in
o SCH-SP-5.2-02: For an Attestation Rulebook describing a type of attestation that is a QEAA or a PuB-EAA, the Scheme Provider shall specify that one or more of the following common formats is used for these attestations:
+ a) ISO/IEC 18013-5-compliant mdoc; + b) SD-JWT-based Verifiable Credentials.
This can be interpreted in a way that W3C JSON-LD not allowed for QEAA. The standard is in very first version so that changes might be possible.
Best
Steffen
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